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		<title>By: Gregory Williams</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2181</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Government seems to have lost the plot. What the developers of 36Degrees and MySociety are trying to enforce is that Government serves us. The government  are not elected for any other reason than to: regulate society for the good of all; legislate for the protection of all; serve society for the elevation of all; educate society for the stimulation of all. Somewhere along the last twenty years weve lost the &#039;why&#039; - in all the privatisation of public services the focus has become the PROFIT found in the delivery of public services - not the services, or the value or the quality - and where does this profit come from? YOUR taxes! This Strategy is bleeding the value from our public services into the pensions of the board members and shareholders of these companies supplying our public services.  The abuse of Tax payers money for personal expenses  discussed here is another symptom of the perspective of this government -  a feudal imperious establishment that simply does not comprehend the concepts embodied in the phrase &#039;To Serve&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Government seems to have lost the plot. What the developers of 36Degrees and MySociety are trying to enforce is that Government serves us. The government  are not elected for any other reason than to: regulate society for the good of all; legislate for the protection of all; serve society for the elevation of all; educate society for the stimulation of all. Somewhere along the last twenty years weve lost the &#8216;why&#8217; &#8211; in all the privatisation of public services the focus has become the PROFIT found in the delivery of public services &#8211; not the services, or the value or the quality &#8211; and where does this profit come from? YOUR taxes! This Strategy is bleeding the value from our public services into the pensions of the board members and shareholders of these companies supplying our public services.  The abuse of Tax payers money for personal expenses  discussed here is another symptom of the perspective of this government &#8211;  a feudal imperious establishment that simply does not comprehend the concepts embodied in the phrase &#8216;To Serve&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: tracey</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2180</link>
		<dc:creator>tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting Fleming mentions the Barclay twins, who pay no tax and are as transparent as the Kremlin. Hypocrisy anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting Fleming mentions the Barclay twins, who pay no tax and are as transparent as the Kremlin. Hypocrisy anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: John L Bell</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2179</link>
		<dc:creator>John L Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steen&#039;s views:

Give a whole new explanation of of &#039;They just don&#039;t get it, do they?&#039; when applied to politicians!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steen&#8217;s views:</p>
<p>Give a whole new explanation of of &#8216;They just don&#8217;t get it, do they?&#8217; when applied to politicians!</p>
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		<title>By: Flemingcrag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flemingcrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note on Ian Dale&#039;s blog he observed Peter Oborne kneel down at your feet and kiss them.
Given that your efforts to out the truth about MPs abusing expense allowances has underwritten just about everything he accused politicians of in his book; The Triumph of the Political Class, I think it was the least he could do.
Methinks the Barclay twins read Peter&#039;s book too and once you opened pandora&#039;s box they decided to clean out the pigsty.
Watch the postbox for your invite to the Isle of Sark their thankyou could outrank Paters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note on Ian Dale&#8217;s blog he observed Peter Oborne kneel down at your feet and kiss them.<br />
Given that your efforts to out the truth about MPs abusing expense allowances has underwritten just about everything he accused politicians of in his book; The Triumph of the Political Class, I think it was the least he could do.<br />
Methinks the Barclay twins read Peter&#8217;s book too and once you opened pandora&#8217;s box they decided to clean out the pigsty.<br />
Watch the postbox for your invite to the Isle of Sark their thankyou could outrank Paters.</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2177</link>
		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, can someone tell me what an appropriate or inappropriate use of the data protection act or FOI is?

For instance, I am interested in getting hold of any documents regarding my mother&#039;s adoption process in the 1930&#039;s. I was also in care in the 1980&#039;s.

It is just out of curiosity but I have no idea how to go about it or whether that is the appropriate route?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, can someone tell me what an appropriate or inappropriate use of the data protection act or FOI is?</p>
<p>For instance, I am interested in getting hold of any documents regarding my mother&#8217;s adoption process in the 1930&#8242;s. I was also in care in the 1980&#8242;s.</p>
<p>It is just out of curiosity but I have no idea how to go about it or whether that is the appropriate route?</p>
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		<title>By: David Hodge</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2176</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now found out that although Heather is an American she was born to British parents and has duel nationality. Is one of us. Makes me feel better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now found out that although Heather is an American she was born to British parents and has duel nationality. Is one of us. Makes me feel better.</p>
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		<title>By: tracey</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2175</link>
		<dc:creator>tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comments from the BBC website, do you have any opinion on this?

&quot;A cynic would say that the reason they were not too worried about Parliamentary information falling within the Act&#039;s sway was that they were pretty confident that they could keep the most sensitive and damaging material from being released, whatever the legislation. They were probably right, generally speaking. The fact that they were short-sighted about the danger of expense claims being made public is more an indication of how complacent they had become about the system than their ability to calculate risk.

It is blindingly obvious that a UK government will always be able to keep the worst of its secrets, so the FoI Act was never going to be a great leveller. While I welcome its principles, I still think it is a very bad piece of legislation and when taken in conjunction with the Data Protection Act and similar legislation, it is a nightmare for public sector bodies to work within and a gravy train for lawyers.

As a person who once had to respond to FoI requests - many of them ridiculous pursuits of non-existent information by obsessives or blatent attempts by commercial organisations to harvest sales and marketing information - I have to admit to feeling somewhat pleased that the legislators are having a taste of their own medicine.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments from the BBC website, do you have any opinion on this?</p>
<p>&#8220;A cynic would say that the reason they were not too worried about Parliamentary information falling within the Act&#8217;s sway was that they were pretty confident that they could keep the most sensitive and damaging material from being released, whatever the legislation. They were probably right, generally speaking. The fact that they were short-sighted about the danger of expense claims being made public is more an indication of how complacent they had become about the system than their ability to calculate risk.</p>
<p>It is blindingly obvious that a UK government will always be able to keep the worst of its secrets, so the FoI Act was never going to be a great leveller. While I welcome its principles, I still think it is a very bad piece of legislation and when taken in conjunction with the Data Protection Act and similar legislation, it is a nightmare for public sector bodies to work within and a gravy train for lawyers.</p>
<p>As a person who once had to respond to FoI requests &#8211; many of them ridiculous pursuits of non-existent information by obsessives or blatent attempts by commercial organisations to harvest sales and marketing information &#8211; I have to admit to feeling somewhat pleased that the legislators are having a taste of their own medicine.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Louie Jerome</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2174</link>
		<dc:creator>Louie Jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 11:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job! It is hard to see how we can ever trust this lot again. Even the freedom information act doesn&#039;t tell us what we really need to know. How can this dishonest &#039;old boys club&#039; expect us to trust them. If they can&#039;t get their expenses claims right, how can they sort out the country&#039;s financial mess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job! It is hard to see how we can ever trust this lot again. Even the freedom information act doesn&#8217;t tell us what we really need to know. How can this dishonest &#8216;old boys club&#8217; expect us to trust them. If they can&#8217;t get their expenses claims right, how can they sort out the country&#8217;s financial mess?</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2173</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 20:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Takes an American to do in a few difficult years what Guy Fawkes and all manner of faint hearts could`nt do in a few centuries. When history is written, your name will be forever honoured and thanked!I see a day commemorating your achievements in turning the stone up with these would-lies underneath...choose your day Lady Brooke of Westminster!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Takes an American to do in a few difficult years what Guy Fawkes and all manner of faint hearts could`nt do in a few centuries. When history is written, your name will be forever honoured and thanked!I see a day commemorating your achievements in turning the stone up with these would-lies underneath&#8230;choose your day Lady Brooke of Westminster!</p>
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		<title>By: David Hodge</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2172</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 11:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Heather. I have suggested on other blogs that the Queen should make you a Baroness. I apologize. Baroness is too low a title. Want to move you up two ranks to Countess. I like to think we can give Americans a title. In the House of Lords they would not know what hit them. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Heather. I have suggested on other blogs that the Queen should make you a Baroness. I apologize. Baroness is too low a title. Want to move you up two ranks to Countess. I like to think we can give Americans a title. In the House of Lords they would not know what hit them. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancee</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2171</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 05:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all your hard work. I&#039;ve been following this story from California and will continue to as more MPs decide to &quot;spend more time with their families.&quot; Some things are just common sense and yet it continues to amaze me when public officials pretend to not understand why those who pay their salaries (taxpayers) are entitled to know how that money is spent. Congratulations and keep up the great work, Heather, you are a true muckraker (and I mean that in the best sense of the word).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all your hard work. I&#8217;ve been following this story from California and will continue to as more MPs decide to &#8220;spend more time with their families.&#8221; Some things are just common sense and yet it continues to amaze me when public officials pretend to not understand why those who pay their salaries (taxpayers) are entitled to know how that money is spent. Congratulations and keep up the great work, Heather, you are a true muckraker (and I mean that in the best sense of the word).</p>
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		<title>By: tracey</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2170</link>
		<dc:creator>tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 22:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a hero! Although it&#039;s been called a bleak time for politics, I think the opposite. It&#039;s the first time I&#039;ve felt optimistic because it&#039;s the first time I&#039;ve felt the possibility for a change and our arrogant rulers humbled. They mustn&#039;t be allowed to slip back to their old ways! Eternal vigilance and all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a hero! Although it&#8217;s been called a bleak time for politics, I think the opposite. It&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve felt optimistic because it&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve felt the possibility for a change and our arrogant rulers humbled. They mustn&#8217;t be allowed to slip back to their old ways! Eternal vigilance and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Correspondent</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2169</link>
		<dc:creator>Correspondent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent work, Heather. Your unsung efforts over the last few years have finally been vindicated by the events of the last fortnight. Congratulations! (http://condensedthoughts.blogspot.com/2009/05/credit-where-its-due.html ).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent work, Heather. Your unsung efforts over the last few years have finally been vindicated by the events of the last fortnight. Congratulations! (<a href="http://condensedthoughts.blogspot.com/2009/05/credit-where-its-due.html" rel="nofollow">http://condensedthoughts.blogspot.com/2009/05/credit-where-its-due.html</a> ).</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://heatherbrooke.org/2009/high-praise-for-freedom-of-information/comment-page-1/#comment-2168</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 07:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many more MP&#039;s think like MP Anthony Steen? We have to weed them out and put in people who really believe in freedom of information and the our right to know what is going on. Heather we could never have got this far without your excellent and tireless work. You should go down in history with some kind of recognition for all your hard work and service to the people of this country. Which MP&#039;s are brave enough to put Heather forward for some kind of award?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many more MP&#8217;s think like MP Anthony Steen? We have to weed them out and put in people who really believe in freedom of information and the our right to know what is going on. Heather we could never have got this far without your excellent and tireless work. You should go down in history with some kind of recognition for all your hard work and service to the people of this country. Which MP&#8217;s are brave enough to put Heather forward for some kind of award?</p>
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		<title>By: John Bennison</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bennison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what depresses me; that bewildered, &quot;Why are you complaining?&quot; attitude. Some are starting to bleat
about the pressure. Tough. Enter the real world.

A lot of them still don&#039;t get it. Take Ruth Kelly&#039;s &#039;insurance&#039; claim. If anyone else hadn&#039;t been able to
make a claim for furniture considered to have no value they wouldn&#039;t have been able to claim from another
source and, worse, think they had a right to do so.

How can we respect people like that and what a cheek that they think they can represent us?

They are not of us because they have this cushion that divorces them from reality and, even now,
most don&#039;t seem to fully realise how that plays with the rest of us ordinary folk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what depresses me; that bewildered, &#8220;Why are you complaining?&#8221; attitude. Some are starting to bleat<br />
about the pressure. Tough. Enter the real world.</p>
<p>A lot of them still don&#8217;t get it. Take Ruth Kelly&#8217;s &#8216;insurance&#8217; claim. If anyone else hadn&#8217;t been able to<br />
make a claim for furniture considered to have no value they wouldn&#8217;t have been able to claim from another<br />
source and, worse, think they had a right to do so.</p>
<p>How can we respect people like that and what a cheek that they think they can represent us?</p>
<p>They are not of us because they have this cushion that divorces them from reality and, even now,<br />
most don&#8217;t seem to fully realise how that plays with the rest of us ordinary folk.</p>
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		<title>By: Alistair Duff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alistair Duff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to congratulate you on making history in the best way possible! This is a rotten parliament, stuffed with 1) unprincipled careerists in the Blair mould and 2) docile lobby-fodder (there are many exceptions, of course, but in the main I think this characterisation stands up.) Shame you are not being acknowledged sufficiently for helping to strip them bare.
Alistair Duff
Cumbernauld
Glasgow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to congratulate you on making history in the best way possible! This is a rotten parliament, stuffed with 1) unprincipled careerists in the Blair mould and 2) docile lobby-fodder (there are many exceptions, of course, but in the main I think this characterisation stands up.) Shame you are not being acknowledged sufficiently for helping to strip them bare.<br />
Alistair Duff<br />
Cumbernauld<br />
Glasgow</p>
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		<title>By: John Connell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The unfortunate thing is, he probably is genuinely bewildered by the &#039;fuss&#039; over his and others&#039; misuse of public money - that, indeed, has been the real problem all the way along for Steen and his ilk on all sides of the Commons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unfortunate thing is, he probably is genuinely bewildered by the &#8216;fuss&#8217; over his and others&#8217; misuse of public money &#8211; that, indeed, has been the real problem all the way along for Steen and his ilk on all sides of the Commons.</p>
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